Wednesday, 13 May 2015

Definition

Before you read my story, perhaps there are certain facts that we need to understand.

It is a little lengthy but it is worth reading, so that be it current bloggers and future bloggers, we know what to do and what not do for now and for the future.  

A term used so loosely in today's context that we somehow get confused and misused it.

Definition of a thief:

a person who steals, especially secretly or without open force (source taken from here)


a person who takes something without permission or without the owner knowing. (source taken from here)


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Kind friends also help me to understand better the true meaning of copyright and harassment act.


Copyright law does not protect recipes that are mere listings of ingredients. Nor does it protect other mere listings of ingredients such as those found in formulas, compounds, or prescriptions. Copyright protection may, however, extend to substantial literary expression—a description, explanation, or illustration, for example—that accompanies a recipe or formula or to a combination of recipes, as in a cookbook.

Only original works of authorship are protected by copyright. “Original” means that an author produced a work by his or her own intellectual effort instead of copying it from an existing work.

For further information about copyright, see Circular 1, Copyright Basics. Note that if your recipe has secret ingredients that you do not want to reveal, you may not want to submit it for registration, because applications and deposit copies are public records.

Deposit requirements depend on whether a work has been published at the time of registration:

If the work is unpublished, one complete copy If the work was first published in the United States on or after January 1, 1978, two complete copies of the best edition If the work was first published outside the United States, one complete copy of the work as first published If the work is a contribution to a collective work and was published after January 1, 1978, one complete copy of the best edition of the collective work or a photocopy of the contribution itself as it was published in the collective work.

Factsheet on copyright registration of recipes.

COPYRIGHT.GOV|BY U.S. COPYRIGHT OFFICE (WWW.COPYRIGHT.GOV)


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Criminal Defamation

There is also the offence of criminal defamation under section 499 of the Penal Code. If you write or say something with the intention to harm, or have reason to believe that your words will cause harm to the reputation of the person, you have committed criminal defamation. There are exceptions however: it is not defamation if you are expressing an honest opinion about how the person is conducting his public functions, or about his character in relation to how he is carrying out his public functions. The penalty for criminal defamation is imprisonment for a term which may extend to 2 years, or with a fine. - See more at: http://www.medialiteracycouncil.sg/media-and-internet

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The story begins

After all the names calling and had my STOLEN photographs pasted on Kitchen Tigress' blog for many days.  She had finally removed from her blog post today.  Unfortunately this time round, my full name is being published to shame yet again.  

I do admit that 3 years ago, in the eagerness to publish the post after the party, I did a cut and paste of the recipes but I also credited my source to where I took the recipes from as well as where my source adapted from.  I didn't claim it was mine at all.

After it was brought to my attention by Kitchen Tigress aka KT, on 6 May 2015 on the said post.   


First I didn't know which post she was referring to.  So I actually emailed to her.




Upon realizing my mistake, I immediately set the situation right by rephrasing the methodology to the recipes that I took from. (A common practice by bloggers). I assumed that then it will be no longer be a cut and paste situation which was wrong.

You may asked, why don't I obediently followed Kitchen Tigress' demand?

The reason I can't delete it, is because it forms part of my learning journey and that is my experience with tried and tested recipes.  My blog post will be incomplete without a recipe, isn't it?

In the food blog-sphere, adapting recipes from each other is a common practice, just like Kitchen Tigress, she adapted many recipes from blogs and book, rephrasing them and credit back to its source.  

Just like when you are told that you had done wrong, you set the situation right.   In school, we were trained to do correction when we were marked wrong. I see this as part of my learning journey too. 

After the editing, I didn't think that by doing the same practice as others as well as like hers, that is rephrasing, I will be called a thief after.

On 7 May 2015 at  , I received a warning email from Kitchen Tigress.  Since I was out the whole day, I didn't get a chance to read it.



On 7 May 2015, I assumed after 5pm, I had my photographs plastered on her blog and calling me thieves even before I can do any explanation on my action because I was out.  

I wasn't even aware of that until around 8 - 9pm when I got home and was informed by my blog followers that such action was taken.  

Subsequent days, I was give more names like pond scum and lowlife.

I did further rephrasing to make sure that it is no longer a cut and paste.  Still my photographs hang on in Kitchen Tigress' blog.

That is the reason why I made that police report on 9 May 2015.





All these years of blogging, I always thought food blogs are about sharing your joy or your failure on your food learning journey.  

Why bloggers set up public food blogs? Am I right to assume that they wanted to share their experiences?  They are hoping that others will attempt it?

We take each others recipe as our kitchen fun.  We didn't mind having our recipes posted in each other's blogs as there is always acknowledgements.  In fact, we love to share.  Eager to know how was the outcome for the others.  We help each other to troubleshoot when recipes didn't work.  We analyse recipes, we do comparison. We formed bake along sessions, theme bakes/cook events, we have bloggers' party.  We inspired each other with gorgeous photography and beautiful blog post.  We shared knowledge on baking/cooking method.  All these are done in the spirit of sharing the same passion.

For me, I am delighted if readers tried my recipes.  I shared the joy if the recipe works for my reader and I tried to find out how to help, if it doesn't.

I felt honored if the tried and tested recipes are tried by bloggers and got posted, be it a good or a bad experiment for the blogger.  If it turn out well, we celebrate.  If it didn't, we encourage each other to try again. 


On 13 May 2015, now that I know that rephrasing is also fine with her.  Then with the edited version of my old blog recipes. I really do not know why I should be called a thief now.

For the benefit of readers, here is the said recipes that I cut and pasted back in 2012.



Here is my edited version: (sorry you have to click on the link as I don't know how to fit all into a print screen)

pReCiouSMoMentS


And here is her version.

Her dry chicken curry


Her adapted recipe: Sambal Udang

Now that I have corrected what I had done wrong.  Should I still deserve such glorified name?

Though I thank her for pointing out my mistakes and I had a chance to made amendment but never in my wildest imagination that for me referencing Kitchen Tigress' recipes (that is 3 years ago), that the whole situation got blown out of proportion to its current state.

As much as you want to exercise whatever rights, sometime, we need to learn how to let go especially when correction had been made.

I believe between humans we need to be respectful to each other.  No one is more superior than the other.  No human is made 100% perfect.  We each had our fair share of imperfection.    

At the end of our life journey, we will be happier when we join the earth, feeling dignified if we treated others with the same.  

57 comments:

  1. Well Said. I am a silent reader delighting in reading food blogs. It has made me a better cook from a person who knows nuts about cooking. Sometimes just to drool over the photos is enough inspiration to strive to cook a yummy meal for the family. Let this incident pass. We are cultured people and we do not call people names as it is very distasteful.

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    1. Hi Anonymous, thanks for dropping by. I am also trying to move on, unfortunately.....

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    2. The questions to ask after all the long waffle and overcomplicated explanations are as follows:

      1. Did you use her recipe without her permission in a circulated medium without proper attribution? YES
      2. Did you comply with the demands of the original producer of the content? NO
      3. Did you subsequently comply? YES which essentially negates all the earlier convoluted reasoning you typed earlier.
      4. Have you accepted what you did is wrong? YES… please refer to point 3.

      In any published environment (electronic, print or otherwise, this is PLAGERISM)
      Perhaps you should stop taking pages out of the Govt playbook by shifting blame, offering quasi apologies and feigning ignorance of rules and accept what you did and raise you hands in a proper show of Mea Culpa.

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    4. A grateful student. For your information, I published all comments coming in for this matter. I do not need moral courage or fortitude to do so.

      I am no coward hiding behind a moniker and blatantly telling the world that I am RIGHT. I did admit my mistake and had amended it. What more do you want from me?

      I had move on, and I hope you do. It is better for the body and soul. And please do not call names. All humans are equal and they deserve respect.

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    5. Thank you for posting my message and I have removed the post questioning your courage to post my comments.

      I am absolutely not vested in the mater so have no need to move on; I was never there to begin with.

      You did portray yourself an an innocent, naive, hapless victim, which you are not.

      Do note that we are entitled to our dignity BUT respect must be earned, not demanded.

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  2. Hi Edith. I have been a KT follower for a while. Although I enjoy some of her recipes, I do not agree and support what she has done or posted for this incident.

    I have left be below comment on her blog but I do not think she will publish my comment. Since many readers will be coming over here to find out more about the saga. I would like to share my feedback to her here:

    To whom this article is directed at and by whom this article is written and for whom readers like me who is reading, it is bizarre and dumbfounding!

    What is the purpose of having an open to public Blog, if it is not for sharing and spreading the word?

    What is the purpose of putting the recipe out in public and not for all to emulate?

    THE PERSON IN CONCERN HAS SHARED YOUR RECIPE IN FULL AND HAS CREDITED TO YOU. I feel that is totally alright. If she has used your recipe and changed it using her own words, it might do injustice to the original recipe. Therefore she probably state in full and credited you. Is this not enough?

    Is there a section in your blog or recipe that stipulates what one has to do in order to be in line with your rules? Otherwise they will be Named and Shamed publicly?

    You are equally guilty of the wrong conduct if you think the person in concern is of bad conduct?

    As an established Food Blogger, instead of sharing of best practices, you choose to humiliate.

    Remember what you say about her also reflects upon yourself too. Always give room for others to step down.
    Make friends and not enemies, you are in for the long haul. Stop creating animosity in the Blogger scene.

    Wonder if this was created because you have lost your audience to other budding Food Bloggers? Wonder if this fiasco is to draw people back to your blog traffic?

    Really sad to read such stuff here. I have been a fan of yours from the last 5 years. But this has seriously put a bad taste to my mouth that now going forward, all the recipes I see in here, will only make me think of the person cooking it, has an ugly persona. That itself, even if the food does taste well, my gut will involuntarily puke in protest, to know that it is from a person with such intentions.

    Thank you and goodbye
    Anonymously your No.1 Fan.

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    1. Dear Anonymously your No1 Fan, thank you for dropping by. I truly appreciate you sharing your thoughts here. You reaffirm my belief that blogging is all about sharing.

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  3. Hi, I am a regular reader of hers and I don't read your blog. Found out about this via her blog. I am commenting just to give you some support and hope you feel better soon. You may have used the text but you credited her from the start. She was rude right from the initial request. But you have amended the post, so there's no reason for her continued nastiness towards you. So disappointed with the ugly display of behaviour, really quite unbelievable that people can be so ruthless. Cheer up!

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  4. Ironically I came here through her blog. And I'd like to echo the sentiments of the above persons who have left comments denouncing KT's rudeness and lack of graciousness. I feel it's enough to have credited her from the start. After all, the point is you are not claiming the credit for yourself. What more does she want? And why can't it be communicated with grace?

    Nancy

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    1. Hi Nancy, thanks for dropping by. From the very beginning, I had never claimed that the recipe was mine. So I too wonder why I was labelled so.

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  5. Hi, I'm your silent reader. The whole saga only reflect badly on the 'name caller'. It is rude, uncivilized, unrestraint and down right ugly character. Do not go down to that person's pathetic level. So chin up
    , you have my support. Admitting mistakes and making amends is courageous and gracious. Will not step into unkind people's blog again.

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    1. Thanks for the support. I am just undoing what I had done wrong 3 years ago.

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  6. I also feel that she is too much in doing this... its just a recipe for goodness sake...

    if it hurts her so much then she shud juz make all her works copyright, so dat no one can reprint, repost or republish... Or better yet dun do a blog to share with others...

    Some ppl really think they are very atas when in fact they are not... more like cheap publicity i say...

    ~AkFy~

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    1. Thanks for dropping by AkFy.

      After so many years of blogging, I still maintain my belief that blogging is about sharing. That is why mine is not a closed blog.

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  7. Dont let this ugly incident get you down. I read you blog often and am surprised at KT's reaction towards your post which was already 3 yrs old. Since you have already credited what you post to her and also make changes, and she is still not satisfied, dont bother......just move on.

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    1. Thanks Metta for dropping by.

      Having your name plastered on someone's blog and unjustly being called as one? haiz.....

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  8. Hi Edith,
    After 1 year of blogging and still new to blog-sphere, I was so taken aback on this episode. I'm like you, always thought food blogs are about recipes sharing, the joy, failure and tips on the food learning journey that posted by bloggers. Like you too, I always credit the source where I've taken the recipes or adapted from. This is to tell anyone who chanced upon my blog that I've learned/attempted that particular recipe from someone else and shared it.
    Even if I've credited the source but I've to rephrase the method/s just because someone has already used that particular method (so as NOT an infringement of copyright), I wonder if this is logical?

    I hope that this unpleasant episode won't dampen your passion. Let's continue to inspire one another with our shared knowledge on baking/cooking methods.

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    1. Hi, Don't let this rare incident dampen your TRUE spirit in blogging too. There are many wonderful bloggers out there who still believe that sharing is a wonderful thing.

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  9. Hi Edith! When I learnt about this incident I was quite appalled, shocked and disappointed. If KT was unhappy about the cut and paste thing, she could have approached you politely and not do what she did. As far as I am concerned, if someone took my recipe (even my original ones) and published word for word, as long as my post is credited, it is fine. I really don't see what's the hoo ha about copyright infringement when you credited her recipe to her. You have handled it well and I say you troop on! All the best to you Edith and continue with your wonderful sharing!

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    1. Phong Hong, I guess she didn't understand the copyright law. A term very loosely used these days.

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  10. Hi Edith, I am here to show support! :)

    Got to know of this issue from a baking group on Facebook. Posted probably by someone who didn't know the both sides of story. I hope you'll fight bravely because I do not see any wrong in reposting the recipe. If she doesn't want people to post her recipe or try her recipe, she probably shouldn't post.

    The irony? I go to her Marble Cake (Tang Mian method), go to check plagarism site, and it's found with significant plagarism. Zz.

    Hang in there!!

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    1. Hi Cherie, what I don't understand is that on one hand she is flattered and happy that readers tried out her recipes, written in their own words which I had already done.

      Now I am wondering whether must I removed the text (who is no longer the same as hers) to be in line with how she demanded. Then report it again (which is the same as the current edited one) = flattered and happy Kitchen Tigress? Totally confused now.

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  11. This is an act of bully and should not be tolerated. I have seen how she scolded other people in her blog. I wonder why she still have so many supporters. 金玉其外,败絮其中。

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    1. Well some readers just don't mind the language I guess.

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    2. Agreed with you. Never come across anyone as snobbish as her!

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  12. Hi Edith, just wonder how many of us have been 'labelled' by her just because we tried and shared her recipes. I only tried one and I had it too. Really 'sway'. Continue your battle if you must do and you have our support. I am with you that blogging is about sharing generously and learning from each other.

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    1. Kimmy, seriously I don't know what is her issue now? She kept going round and round in circle saying the same old issue. I have already rephrased the text! Which is also in line with her criteria! I can't do anymore when a person kept living in the past.

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    2. Exactly, an each time you respond, she bites back with even more accusations which are baseless. I have seen several with such characters in the course of work. Like playing office 'politics'. My boss says these ppl are envious of others and have low self-esteem. Immature, of course.

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    3. Kimmy, that is what puzzled me. Seems like going round and round but in actual fact, still standing at point A.

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  13. Edith , don't let her nastiness get you down ! You've done nothing wrong , so cheer up :D

    Oops , I need to check one recipe that I've stolen , I mean , borrowed from your old blog last year , remember your AWESOME chocolate mooncake skin recipe ?! Nah , I think I credited you for it lol

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    1. Anne, apparently she still thinks I am wrong after ALL THE CORRECTIONS!

      It is my pleasure to share with you. Do share your ups and downs with those recipes that I shared. Let's learn together.

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  14. Edith dear, I'm appalled at how things had developed. U know I he been a keen supporter of yours. This whole plagiarism thingy is making me nervous... In my younger days when I studied law and literature, we were told to quote and unquote cases and phrases... But always referring back to where the case or phrase was lifted to avoid plagiarism.. So does that mean the education industry have erred ? Sure, the common practice of copying and pasting then crediting back is so rampant now (and I tell u, even more so in the China food blogging world).. Sure, it's wrong (if it's truly wrong).. So ? Is there no better way to solve this? I know u will take necessary actions.. Just see how u apologised upfront. Calling names is definitely not right. R u not someone's daughter, sibling or parent? How would she like it if we did it to her mom? The world gets out of hand because of people who cannot handle their own anger. Easy for me to say? Maybe.. But I had my recipes STOLEN WITHOUT CREDITING back to me and I know a few bloggers met the same issue. But we don't go around calling people names. It just ain't nice. Apologies, a tad lengthy.. I just didn't want to leave it at hers since I ain't not going there and since nothing constructive comes out thereafter. But u know u have a bunch of us behind you

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    1. Thanks Vic for your comforting words.

      Ironically, the referencing got me into this big shaming headline.

      Despite me admitting the wrong and correcting my mistake, she and her supporters are still holding onto the past. I already amended but I guess the rest is up to her.

      As for visiting her blog, this will be my last. It is a scary world over there.

      I need to move on with my life and mingle with happy people, great and generous bloggers.

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  15. Hey Edith, there's a silver lining in this fracas, you're getting more visitor traffic from KT's blog and people can judge for themselves what's right and wrong. 公道在人心。I'm new here and I love your blog.You can count me as a regular now too. 8D Thanks Kitchen Tigress for leading me here!

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    1. Thanks for dropping by and yes, I strongly believe in 公道在人心 too.

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  16. Hi Edith,
    What good food can come out of a person with a hot temper? If she is so touchy about people quoting her, she should not be posting or blogging.
    It is very disheartening to see such bickering on blogosphere but I know you can ride it out. Another of my favorite blogger was called names before and it somehow ground her blogging to a near halt. Never let it happen to you!
    The beautiful thing about the internet is for one and all to share. If anyone should feel possessive about their works even when credited, perhaps they should go offline and do it the old fashion way with books. I say, Edith, just do what you do so well.

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    1. Thanks for the encouragement. Whatever I am going through right now, I still strongly believe that all bloggers out there are beautiful and genuinely believe in sharing too.

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  17. You don't know who you're messing with. She's the one who got into the OCBC saga demanding for a free birthday cake "because the ad depicted so". Ended up OCBC staff really went to buy a cake just to appease her lol. For someone so nasty she really tarnished the name of food bloggers.

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  18. Hi I came here through her blog. She is too much. 不需要忘记他,我们只需要活得比他更好更自在。 Don't open her blog to public if so particular on this, else she will have to check from time to time seeing who else have stolen the recipe without rephrase or reword them, would she enjoying her life of blogging by doing so. Anyway, thanks her for leading me here. I support you.

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  19. Dear Edith,
    I am glad you stood up to Kitchen Tigress to stop her bullying. I enjoy reading and following recipes on various blogs, including yours and KT's. The cooking cyberlife is much better without the vitriol. KT is a very good cook and I have no doubt her food will taste even better if her heart is happy and her mind is free of nastiness.

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    1. Becky thanks for dropping by. It will be a happy world if everyone share your thoughts.

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  20. KT has sunk to a new low. There are ways to get people to do what you want without resorting to nastiness or anger. Unfortunately she doesn't have the aptitude or EQ for that. Don't lose sleep over her bullying. On the up side, I'm glad I discovered your blog! xo

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  21. That's how she attracts people to her blog , just ignore her, she has sunk to a new low again after the cookbook giveaway 2 years ago. Remember she held a contest on her blog, inviting readers to submit a national day dish with a short description? In the end, she claimed that nobody won because none of the submissions was grammatical correct! That blog post has since been removed by her, but you can still view the disqus comments here.
    https://disqus.com/home/discussion/food-stories/kitchentigress_cooking_for_the_president_giveaway/

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  22. Hi Edith, I was redirected from her blog to yours and I just want to say that I, too, am appalled not only by KT's inappropriate behavior but the rudeness in which she responds to her followers, which in turn incites others to be rude to her followers. Frankly, I'm amazed she has any followers at all. You have done all you can to remedy the error and she continues to defame your character with the blog questioning whether you are a "thief". I agree with another comment that the nastiness and negativity that emanates from her blog leaves a nasty taste in your mouth so much so that any recipe she shares is tainted with ugliness. Who wants to eat that?? Keep your head up. I certainly do not consider you a thief and I certainly do not believe that was your intent. Quite frankly, I think the "Tigress" in the Kitchen needs to be put back in her cage because she is out of control. My personal opinion of course. I have ceased looking at her blog because of all the negativity riddled in her interaction with her followers. No friend. No follow. In my opinion.

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    1. I agree with anonymous. I was a KT follower until I saw the nasty name calling she had on her blog; not only that, she can be condescending to her followers in which I've been turning a blind-eye to; but after reading her recent post on Edith, that's it, I can no longer tolerate her rudeness.

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    2. Thanks Anonymous for dropping by and leaving words of encouragement and understood my intent.

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    3. Thanks Stephanie B for dropping by.

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  23. Hi Edith, I am here to express my support for you as well. I have been an avid cook and baker since I was 15, not just in Asian cooking but also all sorts of cuisines. I was absolutely mortified when I came across her blog--I have never seen a cook blogger as rude, bitter, and abrasive as her. Cooking is a form of art and an expression of love for many, including myself, and for her to behave this way is AN INSULT to cooking.

    Being a good cook is NOT a justification to behave poorly towards others, whether in person or online. Like what another commenter said, it doesn't matter if her recipes are excellent, her behavior and attitude will leave a bad taste in your mouth and soul. If she is so concerned about others stealing 'her' recipes (she isn't even the originator), she shouldn't publish them at all.

    A person who is angry/nasty/bitter constantly has psychological issues, and this commonly stems from childhood experiences. If the primary caregiver didn't help her to develop a healthy self-esteem, in her adulthood, she will put people down in order to feel better about herself--this feeds her sense of ego.

    I can totally understand why you would be distressed and distraught over her attacks towards you, but do deeply consider that this is NOT about you (it's nothing personal), it's that she clearly has issues. You just happened to cross her path--it could have happened to anyone. Sorry for your bad luck!

    I wish you continual success for your blog, and hope that this matter will not deter you from pursuing your passion!! Cheers! _Cookiegal

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  24. Thanks for sharing your lovely recipes.I 'm glad you can stay strong,defend yourself and move on from this. As for KT its sad that she's like a broken tape recorder. According to tcm and alternative healing, extreme emotions may affect our health.
    http://www.thenaturalrecoveryplan.com/articles/emotional-causes-of-cancer.html
    http://hubpages.com/health/seven-deadly-emotions

    Take care, stay happy & healthy.

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  25. Hi Edith, I was looking for a Castella mold, and for some unknown reason, Google shows this spate of unhappiness too. So I went to KT blog to read, then back to yours to read too. I don't know the right or wrong of things. But you know me from eons ago.. With KC forum, I had my fair share of copy/cut/paste etc. I set so many rules about that, and everyone thinks I am over and beyond paranoid. I have known you PERSONALLY for years. And know who you are, what you are. You are not what KT says of you. I'm glad you took action with the Police. I would do the same too. :) Cheers! Gina

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Thanks for dropping by. If you have tried a recipe, do share with me your experience. It will be nice to hear from you. Cheers